. >> the u.s. and the british intelligence agencies overthrew them much on the fact that they didn't like the oil. >> john: and this is under eisenhower. >> yes. >> john: we're still paying for this policy of 1953 -- >> and the [ inaudible ] brothers. >> john: hey. >> and at that period we were doing that frankly all over the world. >> john: yeah, sure. >> in avenue ka we were putting down movements. >> john: but theory -- history lesson is by putting in this dictator who hated hi own people. and then they became mega religious conservatives and we're all paying the pricer for it. >> there is a clear-eyed view of what america standing for, and a ground swell of goodwill there. you would meet people on the street. people who worked at the former us air base there, who liked america. they still like our culture -- jov yes, and our entertainment and technology, but not our politics. >> yeah. yeah. >> john: that was what was interesting to me, all of these people saying let's nuke these people who were